Bad News For Elin! Our Experts Say She Will Have A Hard Time Moving To Sweden With Her Kids!

Sat, April 17, 2010 11:51am EDT by 30 Comments
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BFFs, you want to see Elin get custody of the kids & take them overseas — but our experts say it’s not that simple!

When it comes to the custody battle over Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren‘s children — Sam, 2, and Charlie, 1 — our BFFs are totally Team Elin! Not only did 61 percent of you say Elin should get full custody of the children, but a TON of you also say Elin should take them both to live in Sweden. But when HollywoodLife.com took the issue to our legal experts, we came back with not-so-good news for you members of Team Elin.

Despite the fact that Elin reportedly wants to move away from their house in Florida to the $2.2 million home she bought on an island near Stockholm, Sweden, Chris Mancini, a divorce attorney in South Florida, told us Elin can’t take little Charlie and Sam anywhere without Tiger’s permission. “In the event that Tiger [Woods] objects to the terms [of her taking them out of Florida], he can go to court … and stop her from doing it,” Mancini (who isn’t involved in the case) said. “She won’t be allowed to take the kids without a signed agreement.”

Something tells us Tiger won’t be too eager to sign away his children to live in his wife’s native country… even if he hasn’t exactly been father of the year! And if Elin does try to take Sam and Charlie to Sweden, Florida state law would even permit Tiger to freeze Elin’s passport!

And here’s more bad news for Team Elin: Mancini predicts that the judge presiding over Elin and Tiger’s case probably won’t give sole custody to her. Mancini said she’s more likely to get primary residential custody, which means the children would live with her and Tiger would have open visitation rights.

“Tiger is not an unfit father just because he screws around on his wife,” Mancini told us. “He only loses visitation if he abuses or neglects [them].”

But LA-based attorney Steve Cron says us that Elin still has a chance of getting primary custody, and would be favored as the better parent in a court of law.  “When you’re looking at custody and who’s the better parent, he clearly is the worse one,” Cron said. “He [was] out perusing around at bars and sleeping around with a wide variety of women.”

So basically, even though Elin is CLEARLY the better parent (our BFFs and our experts agree), it’s still very unlikely she’d be able to take the kids to live away from Tiger in Sweden. Are you still holding out hope that Elin will be able to take Sam and Charlie to live with her in Sweden?

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Monet

Posted at 7:20 PM on April 26, 2010  

It will be cruel to use the children to punish the erring husband; even if he is a decent father. The biggest losers are the children.

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Angie

Posted at 6:51 AM on April 21, 2010  

Also, America is the most diverse nation on the planet. Sweden, on the other hand, is not. I think it is kinda cruel to take children with a multicultural heritage and remove them from an environment where there are many children like them. There are parts of their culture that only their father can teach them and Tiger can talk to them about his experiences as a multicultural man. The knee jerk reaction will be that race doesn’t matter but I wouldn’t want my child’s life to be spent not going to school with anyone who looks like them.

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Angie

Posted at 6:42 AM on April 21, 2010  

If Tiger is a terrible parent, why does Elin leave the children alone with him? I know it has been decided that Tiger is the worst person ever, but in the real world, couples split all the time and parents don’t lose access to their kids because of infidelity. Anyone who makes the statement that Elin should take those children to Sweden is letting their anger at Tiger override the needs of those kids. Tiger’s kids have been shown in public with him and it is clear they adore him.

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O'Really

Posted at 7:10 PM on April 20, 2010  

If Elin’s U.S. citizenship is based on her marriage to Tiger
will her status as an American remain the same after the divorce?

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cneal04

Posted at 11:56 PM on April 18, 2010  

I don’t agree with his actions..but the nanny knew what she was getting into before she married him..she knew he was a playboy…now she wants to act shocked because of his infidelities…give me a break…they both are pathetic…i hope for tiger’s sake he got a PRENUP..because the nanny is going to take him to the bank…lol

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lulu

Posted at 7:09 PM on April 18, 2010  

Elin is going to use these children as well to make him misrable and make him to travel just to see his kids.It’s all unfair,kids will be there as big lumps of great child support money,it’s all. Now,Elin is just after the money,it’s why she still haven’t finished it.She try very hard to make as much as he can on the whole situation,and Tiger see it and it’s why he doesn’t try hard to repair the relationship.On the other hand,kids should be with both parents,join custody is the only fair custody which doesn’t make other parent look like he was used.

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Harley 53

Posted at 11:42 AM on April 18, 2010  

This is so true, I had a cheating husband, I went through divorce and I got primary custody for all four of my children. There was “NO WAY” I could leave with my children even to move to another State unless I could prove it was for a better job, without a “signed agreement”. My children were all under the age of 12 also, but no matter what there father did, I knew that our children needed both parents in there life, even though he was not around most of there years, and did hardly anything for them! I know how Elin feels, believe me I went through the same thing she has, but with lesser affairs. When you think about it, Elin would not have what she does have, if not for Tiger and his career. You cannot just take your life and pack up and leave to another country when there are kids involved, just to get away from all the drama…you have to face it head on Elin…and keep you head up high! Tiger may of had his affairs, but I am sure he does love his children, and that is not right to punish those two lovely children. You end up wanting your ex to hurt…but by doing this the children are the ones who suffer! I could not do this to my children and now there all over 21 and great normal children. Yes,I am a nobody,my life was not published like the Woods,but if it was it would of been a “Best Seller”!

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me

Posted at 9:52 AM on April 18, 2010  

Calling Elin raging mad probably comes from Tiger Woods camp or his endorsers, they want their guy to look good, more money for them. Sex rehab poor excuse for lack of self control, honestly you really need to go to rehab to hear your hurting your family and possibly infecting yourself with diseases that can pass to partner, ridiculous! Tiger is immature and self centered so are the people on his gravy train-money-Greed is the rule for them. How do you pay one athlete that kind of money to push a ball no less. These companies have that much profit, they need to take that money and help people in true need, not on athletes and commercials. I will not excuse his selfcentered, selfish behaviour.Apology? non-sense, think maturely first, then act. If I were Elin I’d tell Tiger no need to apologize, go have your fun but it will cost you this much cash, why should he give that money to women,who don’t know how to keep their underwear on, 10 minutes after meeting him and he is not handsome. His behaviour on the greens uncouth, classless.

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Krys

Posted at 1:08 AM on April 18, 2010  

WOW, I am reading all kinds of insane comments that are claiming that Tiger is the better parent because of Elin’s ‘rage’. That is a totally crazy thing to say!
Any frustration Elin is feeling is what Tiger has brought on to her and his family. This is in NO WAY her fault! She is being VERY mature in trying to repair their marriage because most people would just leave without a second thought. She has been humiliated and hurt and yet she remains very very strong for her kids.

I agree that Elin should remain in the USA with the kids because Tiger should remain active in their lives but to turn this on Elin and make her seem like SHE is sick and SHE has problems is just wrong!

Every time I see photos of the kids, they are with their mum and she always gives them loads of attention and has tried to keep them away from the media to protect them.
Where has Tiger been lately? Playing golf & putting his family second AGAIN.
Now I am not judging him and saying he is a bad parent. I am simply saying that he needs to stop trying to please the public to regain his image and just take some time off and try to rebuild his family. I know he loves his kids but take some of the pressure off of Elin by helping out a little more. Then maybe things will run a little more smooth.

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getbacktowork

Posted at 9:53 PM on April 17, 2010  

i can’t imagine he wouldn’t agree to let her live in her home country. his reputation is in shambles and giving his wife a hard time would hurt his endorsement deals, which he cares so much about. it’s not a big deal for him to visit them in sweden and/or pay for them to come visit him in florida now and then. he also should realize that his kids will have a better life there, and even he could have more normal visits with them in sweden than in florida where he is harassed by the paps.

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Village

Posted at 5:30 PM on April 17, 2010  

He is going to use those children to make her miserable. Whatever she wants, he is going to want the opposite. He is FURIOUS with her, and he is going to make her pay, using the children, the only currency that counts to her.

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anonymous

Posted at 4:53 PM on April 17, 2010  

I AM THRILLED TO HEAR ALL OF THE ABOVE. SHE IS ONE ANGRY RAGEFUL WOMAN. SHE IS NOT THE BETTER PARENT AT ALL. FIRST OF ALL SHE HAS GOTTEN NO PROFESSIONAL HELP, AND HAS DUMPED HER SICK RAGE ON THEIR 2 CHILDREN. THIS IS NOT GOOD PARENTING. TIGER HAS GONE TO REHAB AND IS CONTINUING THERAPY, AND NEEDS TO. SHE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP IMMEDIATELY AND CONTINUING TOO. THEY ALSO, SHOULD HAVE COUNSELING WITH THE 2 OF THEM TO HELP THEIR PARENTING. ELIN IS A SICKO AND HER BEHAVIOR REFLECTS HER RESOURCES SHE HAS BEEN GETTING SUPPORT FROM. HER FAMILY OF ORIGIN IS THE SAME DYSFUNCTIONAL SYSTEM AS HERS. SHE NEEDS TO PROFESSIONAL HELP. IF SHE WERE HEALTHIER TO BEGIN WITH, SHE WOULDNT HAVE EVER BEEN IN RELATIONSHIP WITH TIGER.HE IS NOW RECOVERING. WHO CARES ABOUT THE COMMENTS ABOUT UNPROTECTED SEX ETC, IT IS ABOUT THE KIDS, PEOPLE DONT REALIZE THIS, AND KEEP GETTING STUCK IN HIS BEHAVIOR OF PAST. SHE PROBABLY HASNT EVEN HAD A COMPLETE STD CHECK. SHE IS AS SICK AS HE WAS. I AM DONE WITH HER RAGE AND SICK BEHAVIOR.

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wowo

Posted at 12:58 AM on April 18, 2010  

Elin may need counseling to heal but she is not a sicko…as for the STD comments if Tiger was cheating on her while they were trying to concieve children she could have passed on an STD including AIDS to them unborn that is a crime and would be Tiger’s fault maybe the best thing for the children is to end the marraige I don’t think it is fair to blame her for Tigers’ compulsion or for bowing out of the marraige because she realized that golf is more important than healing their relationship

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mimi

Posted at 2:08 PM on April 18, 2010  

I agree with you wowo, how stupid can a man be, unprotected sex with the kind of women he had…???????you dont need to be a scientist to figure that out, be real about it!!!!!!!!!!who knows what happened before the explosion…Thanksgiving…….

 
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mimi

Posted at 2:09 PM on April 18, 2010  

????????????????????????????????????????????????

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mimi

Posted at 2:12 PM on April 18, 2010  

Anonymous!…I cannot believe what you are saying?????but have a good day anyway

 
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sas

Posted at 4:29 PM on April 17, 2010  

If it is true what several women claimed, then he had unprotected sex with these women before, during and after the pregnancies of his wife and therefore risked the health of his wife and (unborn) children. It would suck for Elin if she has to stay in the US because the man has more rights in Florida, while most of her friends and family live in Sweden and her ex-husband is traveling all over the world anyway.

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anonymous

Posted at 4:56 PM on April 17, 2010  

YOU ARE OFF ON YOUR COMMENT, BECAUSE TIGER IS A SEX ADDICT WHO HAD NO CONTROL , AND HAS GONE TO REHAB, DONE HIS STINT, AND IS CONTINUING. HE IS A GOOD FATHER, AND WANTS TO BE ACTIVE IN HIS CHILDRENS LIFE. THIS IS THE ISSUE. YOU ARE OFF, BUT IT IS YOUR OWN BELIEF. TIGER WAS DOING ALL THAT WHEN HE WAS AWAY ON TOUR, SO SHE SAYS SHE DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT. LISTEN, I WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF MY HUSBAND WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR FROM DAY ONE….RIGHT AWAY….I COULD TELL. STOP THE POOR ELIN CRAP, EVERYONE, AND GET THAT THIS WOMAN, COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THIS….IT IS RIDICULOUS…

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mimi

Posted at 11:06 PM on April 18, 2010  

Sexaddict = no control?…….therefore .. he could NOT put a condom ?????????no no…it is too far out what you say….he is a grown man for god sake not a teenager.

 
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GetAClue

Posted at 3:02 PM on April 17, 2010  

Not only has Tiger NOT been accused of abusing his children, but being a bad spouse does not automatically make a person a bad parent. Adultery is a betrayal of the marriage vows between a husband and a wife only, not between a parent and child or children.

Tiger was at clubs and has admitted to being unfaithful to his wife with other women, but there have been no claims that the children were present during any of those situations.

Plus, the children were born in America, their father is American and their parents are legally married. That means the children are both American citizens. Elin should be able to take their children to visit Sweden or any other country whenever she likes, but because the children are American Elin should reside in the United States as long as the children are too young to legally decide which parent they want to live with. And all of that applies ONLY if Tiger and Elin actually get a divorce.

So far the story of Elin divorcing Tiger hasn’t appeared on any legitimate news agencies, just online gossip sites and paper tabloid mags. None of the legitimate news media has acknowledged or confirmed the divorce rumors.

Mimi, re: Tiger being “in full swing with golf and ‘ho’s” and that he “will have porno-women and other sl*ts in the children’s lives.”: What Tiger did was in the past; there are no claims that Tiger is still doing those things. He admitted being unfaithful and apologized to Elin for it, and publically stated that he was not going to be unfaithful again. You don’t know that Tiger will go back on what he said about not doing those things again and you don’t know that he will put “porno-women” and “other sl*ts” in his children’s lives. It’s an assumption on your part, and your assumptions are your problem, not Tiger’s.

What really matters is that Elin hasn’t said a word about Tiger or made any complaints about him to any one. There have been a bunch of anonymous “Sources” claiming Elin Woods feels “this way” or “that way”, but no confirmations or statements have come from Elin at all.

So those who are excited that Elin might finally ‘Just Do It” and file for divorce should consider the facts. The supposed “recent visit” to Elin’s residence by an “out of town” divorce attorney was not verified or proven with photos or the name of the supposed attorney. All that was provided was the word of yet another “Anonymous Source”.

The reality could be that what Elin and Tiger do in their marriage might never be made public. It could also be that in spite of all the rumors, Elin might not be considering divorce at this time.

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anonymous

Posted at 5:01 PM on April 17, 2010  

are you serious here, she hasnt said a word or made any rto anyone…..sometimes i wonder how much people have read, before they make these comments..

TIKI BARBER WAS VOTED THE WORST FATHER OF THE YEAR…JOHN GOSSELIN CAME IN SECOND, FOLKS.

TIGER WOODS CAME IN THIRD….HE HAD ONLY A FRACTION OF VOTES. KEEP THE DETAILS OUT OF THIS. THE COURTS WILL. IT IS ONLY ABOUT HIM AS A DAD, AND HE IS A DARN GOOD ONE. ELIN HAS NO RIGHT, WITH HER ANGER AND RAGE, TO TAKE THEM TO SWEDEN, AND I AM GLAD THE LAWS AND COURTS WONT LET HER. SHE NEEDS MAJOR PSYCHOTHERAPY AND MORE. HER RAGE AND ACTIONS ARE HURTING THE CHILDREN THE MOST. WHO IS THE BEST PARENT LATELY….TIGER….

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mimi

Posted at 2:01 PM on April 18, 2010  

A darn good father he is NOT, he has put his family in health-danger

 
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mimi

Posted at 2:00 PM on April 18, 2010  

Lets hope and pray that you are right????but I doubt it…..With Elin gone ….from the mariage,… he will just do whatever……of course…….

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MVP

Posted at 7:09 PM on April 18, 2010  

I read all the comments here yours is the only one I would say very objective. They should indeed get a clue.

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mimi

Posted at 1:52 PM on April 19, 2010  

halloooooo getaclue!…My assumptions are facts…..I make it short!!!!!!!

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mimi

Posted at 1:01 PM on April 17, 2010  

so Tiger Wood is a fit father? – and can skrew around????I dont get it……he will have porno-women and other sluts in the childrens life, change the law please..it does not make sense, of course she can travel to sweden and other places, he is not there anyway, he is in full swing with golf and ho’s…….

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Troy

Posted at 2:23 AM on April 19, 2010  

Having sex with dozens of pornstars during his marriage and exposing his wife and children to a risk of STD’s and HIV IS a form of abuse to the kids.

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mimi

Posted at 1:53 PM on April 19, 2010  

Of course it is!!!!!

 
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rydangel

Posted at 4:12 PM on April 19, 2010  

i’d be more concerned about how 2 half-black children would be treated in a predominately homognized country as sweden. they should remain with their mother as the primary caregiver. but it’s hard being the only brown face among a bunch of pale ones. and what can elin say to them when they come home crying because they were called a n*gga for the first time? being told to ignore stupid people who are ignorant doesn’t help. tiger may be the worst husband, but he has always been a decent father. and truthfully, if he wasn’t famous, nobody would even care what happens to those kids. men cheat on their wives everyday, and women end-up raising kids alone.

 
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mimi

Posted at 1:22 PM on April 20, 2010  

Rydangel!, you dont need to worry about sweden or other scandinavian contries in that way, we are much much in advance with everything……, there are other things much more important that the colour of the skin, what is important: how you are as a human being!!!!!!!

 
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