‘Game Of Thrones’ Team Was Wrong To Have Jaime Rape Cersei

Tue, April 22, 2014 5:44pm EDT by 24 Comments
Game Of Thrones Jaime Rape Scene
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Funions

Posted at 6:45 PM on May 27, 2014  

“Cersei is a manipulative, revengeful, lying, conniving, murderous b****”

Feminism. U r doin it rong.

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dot

Posted at 9:39 PM on May 12, 2014  

Yes, I agree this was absolutely not what happened in the book and totally wrong for the characters.

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Cockisharticles

Posted at 4:12 PM on May 4, 2014  

” the series’ attempt to turn her into his rape victim makes no sense.” Erm no….this websites attempt to turn her into his rape victim makes no sense

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Jeff

Posted at 10:02 AM on April 27, 2014  

There is no doubt that Jamie forced himself on Cersei in this scene. You can argue that she didn’t resist very much, or even that she even wanted him to dominate her; he came back to her as a broken man that she could no longer respect, and she manipulated him towards a violent act of desire, having rebuked him at every turn since they have been reunited. However, regardless of how you spin things, he still raped her, and he did so in an incredibly inappropriate situation, and it was wrong. I believe the show’s creators did this to underscore the power struggle between them, and how impulsive Jamie is when he is with Cersei. Jamie relinquished his birthright and became a Kingsguard just so he could stay close to Cersei. Jamie threw a young boy from a window just to protect his relationship with her. He is literally at his worst when he follows the path of his desire for his sister, and this is the culmination of that arc. I believe this is going to be a turning point for Jamie, where he looks back on what he did and hates himself for it, for degrading himself and once again becoming a deplorable person. During his slow progression back to humanity that he experienced during his travels with Brienne, he was still pining to be back with his beloved sister, and (literally) tried to force himself back into his old ways; now he will find those old ways to be unbearable. I believe that this act of aggression towards Cersei is going to be a turning point for Jamie — the catalyst for his choice to distance himself from his sister and her hold over him, and to choose to finally become someone that he can be proud of.

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christinesiims

Posted at 8:27 PM on April 24, 2014  

Incest goes on in real life. The days off sweeping indelicate subjects under the bed are GONE

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Nelly Ambrosius

Posted at 9:27 AM on April 24, 2014  

I don’t know if it isn’t too soon to make a final statement about it. Sex and lust can be a very thin line to pain…Sometimes women say no and mean yes to a man they love for so long…maybe the writers want to point something different out. Maybe now is the first time Cersei doesn’t get her will…that a man stands up and she cannot fool him anymore. She played with him and all other men all this years… In the past she often wanted Sex and Jaimie wasn’t that keen she had to persuade him…Maybe this is a big change for Cercei as well.. The rape wasn’t that obvious… she said no…but a man with only one hand…I think she could fight him if she really wants…I have really mixed feelings and I hope this story will develope in the right direction. Sex is about domination as well. Jaimie shows that he is sick of her games, that he dominates her…I’m curious how it will go on…

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erasure025

Posted at 1:57 PM on April 23, 2014  

Such a big deal is being made of a completely fictional TV show, which fictional characters, in a fictional land. There are sooo many disturbing and violent acts on this show that focusing on one seems like cherry picking some political agenda.

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june darby

Posted at 2:51 PM on April 23, 2014  

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robin

Posted at 1:43 PM on April 23, 2014  

yes! her playing the “this is not right thing” is not her style. she knows it’s right. to make him look like the rapist is stupid. but that is the way she is evil. personally we all know it happened alot in the time setting of this series.

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Mayella

Posted at 9:08 AM on April 23, 2014  

I thought the scene was absolutely horrifying and a(nother) unnecessary change from the books. If the writers wanted to ‘shock’ the viewers, as they seem so intent on doing these days, the scene itself as written in the books would’ve been shocking enough. But why take away Cersei’s agency and WHY turn Jaime into a rapist? He saved Brienne from that fate, admitting he’d rather be killed than raped himself, if he were a woman.

It’s ridiculous and so incredibly misogynistic what happened in this episode.

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Niclas

Posted at 7:45 AM on April 23, 2014  

Damn those spoilers! When I read “spoiler alert” I see the actual spoiler at the same time!

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JJ

Posted at 10:03 AM on April 23, 2014  

Yes! I think that was a dirty trick by the writer. If you’re writing an article about Game of Thrones leave the book stuff out.

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Rachel

Posted at 4:58 AM on April 23, 2014  

Surely it depends on whether what happened is perceived as rape. I just thought it was rough forceful sex between two people long established in a sick twisted relationship. If you notice in the scene Cersei is hardly resisting. She’s saying no but more because of doing it in front of Joffrey’s corpse than because she doesn’t want to have sex. If she really didn’t want it she would have put up much more of a fight. This is Cersei, after all. People can have sex that is conflicted. It doesn’t have to be black and white. Nobody made a fuss about Dany getting raped on her wedding night then falling in love with the rapist. People saw Khal Drogo, disturbingly, as some kind of heartthrob. Cersei and Jaime’s relationship is complex and unpleasant, but it’s a mistake to think of Jaime as either a rapist or on some kind of redemptive arc.

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Abetterplace

Posted at 8:40 AM on April 23, 2014  

Well said….well said!

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Nick

Posted at 8:42 AM on April 23, 2014  

Congratulations on joining the ranks of the rape apologists.

 
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Mayella

Posted at 9:04 AM on April 23, 2014  

THAT was definitely rape. If the woman is saying ‘no’, she means it, no matter how ‘complex’ their relationship. And a lot of people made a fuss over Khal Drogo and Dany, actually. The writers seem to have developed a taste for rape on the show and I’m glad people (viewers, fans, critics) are finally noticing.

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Rob

Posted at 2:01 PM on April 26, 2014  

Historically the institution of marriage was inherently based on rape. Women didn’t consent to marriage, it was a deal done between two families, and there was no concept of “marital rape”, because the man automatically had the right to sex whether she wanted it or not. It’s hilarious that Xians bang on about wanting “traditional marriage”, when marriage as an institution that traditionally degraded and disempowered women.

 
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Emily

Posted at 10:49 PM on April 22, 2014  

Cercei clearly wanted Jamie as much as he wanted her. She never actually resists or fights Jamie but instead kisses him back. If it wasnt cercei we are taking about it may hace seemed too much but she is so twisted there is no way she wasnt enjoying herself. Jamie did not loose his path of redemption, he just needed to show cercei he wasnt damaged goods, and he showed her well

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Mayella

Posted at 9:06 AM on April 23, 2014  

“He showed her well?” HOW??? By showing his sister he could rape her, even with one hand?? Woah how disturbing you’d even think, let alone say that!!

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Emily

Posted at 10:47 PM on April 22, 2014  

Cercei clearly wanted Jamie as much as he wanted her. She never actually resists or fights Jamie but instead kisses him back. If it wasnt cercei we are taking about it may hace seemed too much but she is so twisted there is no way she wasnt enjoying herself. Jamie did not loose his path of redemption, he

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lola

Posted at 7:43 PM on April 22, 2014  

As a huge fan of the book and not so much of the series I agree 100% with ur post.

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Janet Castle

Posted at 7:33 PM on April 22, 2014  

I for one thought it was a great scene, and after all the other dreadful things that happen on the show I was not in the least shocked even thought I am a book reader and have read the entire series so far. I think Jamie is frustrated beyond endurance after all that has happened to him, and I don’t think he viewed it as rape. While his chapter has been on a redemption path, he is who he is and is not going to turn into a saint overnight.

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Cave

Posted at 9:11 PM on April 24, 2014  

Thanks for making sense, Janet. I also thought it was a good scene and we are not in a courtroom judging a real rape, this is a TV series. It makes the story more interesting to me who have not read the books. And she IS capable of much more resistance. She’s been implying he is useless since he got back and in this scene after SHE kisses him she pulls away in disgust when she sees his hand. That’s what makes him say she is a hateful woman — plus she wants him to kill the brother he loves.
Her resistance is very fainthearted considering what she is like and that’s probably because she finally wants him again now that he went fierce on her. She wants him to be powerful and to help her with all her evil plots.
As for him pushing Bran out of the tower, probably the worst thing he did do, am starting to want to run him over with a cart unless he stops waking up gasping and gets wherever he is going and does something…That poor Holdor…

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Nick

Posted at 2:40 AM on April 25, 2014  

Whether or not this is ‘just a television show’ becomes irrelevant once the directors, actors, and people like you start claiming that the act shown in the scene is not rape when it clearly, clearly is, as this tells us a lot about attitudes towards rape in real life

She says ‘no’, ‘it’s wrong’ and ‘not here’ – how more clear do you want her to be? It is not for you or anyone else to judge whether or not her resistance was ‘enough’ – if someone doesn’t try to fight off a mugger then does that mean that they weren’t actually mugged, and that they just consensually gave the mugger their wallet?

It’s because of people like you that the vast majority of rapists never pay for their crimes, and more importantly, that rape victims go through a second hell after their rape, of either being scared to come forward in case people decide that ‘they didn’t resist enough’ or coming forward and having their claims laughed at and ignored.

 
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