High School Student Suspended For Asking Miss America To Prom

Sat, April 19, 2014 11:30am EDT by 166 Comments
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t rex

Posted at 6:08 AM on April 22, 2014  

he shouldn’t have asked, that’s what the problem was. that’s the kind of thing where if it just happened on the fly people would laugh and whatnot, it would lighten the mood, and then if someone scolds him about it their attitude would be softened by all the amused people glad that he did that and realize how completely harmless the act was to anything.

since he asked, obviously they have to say no as liability-dropping mechanism and a matter of professionalism. and, since he did it after being told not to, that counts as deliberate defiance, which some teachers would feel is a blow to their pride, which also risks their perception by themselves and/or others of their professionalism being compromised if they don’t punish. by not asking, he would not have received any order which he could disobey, and people could easily attribute him not being able to understand the minds of authority figures as his shortcoming rather than deliberate, knowing defiance.

this is why both warning people too rigidly not to do certain things in advance, causing people to not be able to do what they actually need to do and should be doing by them being overly cautious and questioning even more reasonable solutions to inordinary problems that naturally arise in any situation, and why doing what he did, are both terrible ideas.

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BpaMiller

Posted at 3:31 PM on April 21, 2014  

What happened to freedom of speech? The article didn’t say that he drugged her and took her to prom in shackles..he asked her a question!! Phil Robertson slanders millions of gay people and the majority of the Country rallied around his free speech rights. This kid asks a question and gets reprimanded? Good Lord!

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Steven Deakins

Posted at 12:17 PM on April 21, 2014  

Kudos to him for having the courage to even ask! Shame on school officials!

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hatrhurter

Posted at 11:20 AM on April 21, 2014  

he was explicitly told not to do something then did it. tough. also, it was IN school suspension, big deal.

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Don Kline

Posted at 10:35 AM on April 21, 2014  

School “officials” are always saying things… that doesn’t make it a rule! From most of my experiences with these people they say stuff that has no basis as if it’s fact, then they turn around a break state/federal regulations just to have that excused as “what’s best for the student.”
Spend more time teaching and less regulating!

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LogicalLeopard

Posted at 1:37 PM on April 21, 2014  

Always saying things? If they say “don’t do that”, then DON”T DO IT *LOL* It’s just that simple. And you don’t know if his school is breaking state/federal regulations. This kid could have asked her to the prom on his own time, without even involving the school. I mean, he’s a kid and it’s 2014. YouTube. Twitter. Facebook. Vine. Or he could go old school, go down to the local news studio (who will be covering the story), wear a tuxedo, get down on one knee in front of the camera, and ask on his own time.

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Gary

Posted at 10:29 AM on April 21, 2014  

sooooo… what was the answer?

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tabbykatcvn74

Posted at 11:10 AM on April 21, 2014  

I believe she said no thank you.

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LogicalLeopard

Posted at 1:45 PM on April 21, 2014  

Prom conflicts with her travel schedule.

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Johnny Five

Posted at 10:04 AM on April 21, 2014  

Isn’t this America?? Holy S#$T why can’t someone ask someone out if they want to?? I’m a soldier of 22 years (retired). What’s up with this country?!?! Its sickening to think that this is what I served for. I commend the student for exercising his right of freedom!! Miss America can exercise her right also by saying “yes” or “no”. The choice is hers. At least he had the balls to ask !!!!!!!!!

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vorbex

Posted at 10:01 AM on April 21, 2014  

He was told not to do it – that is the rule that he broke – it doesn’t need to be written.

He knew he would get in trouble… and he still did it.

The school did nothing wrong… an the kid did nothing wrong really.

The understands why he is in trouble… and he seemed pretty mature about it.

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Heather Ann Sclafani

Posted at 10:00 AM on April 21, 2014  

Why are the school officials worried about a senior in high school asking someone out for prom? Most of them are 18 years, of age to ask people like her out. Usually when there is a thing like thing happening in school, kids can ask anything (as long as it is within boundaries of course).

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Cliff

Posted at 9:43 AM on April 21, 2014  

Where is it written in writing? Was it shown to the individual of the written rules and policy of whom he can ask and not ask to a Senior Prom? Or could this be a source of dictatorship of the school and the board that governs them?

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Deb V (@OrioleMom)

Posted at 9:43 AM on April 21, 2014  

What school Policy did he violate…that’s the question. Is there REALLY a “policy” that says “students may not ask Miss America to Prom”….or is more that an administrator arbitrarily decided it was a bad idea, told him not to do it, then punished him for doing as he was told? There’s FAR too much missing information in the story to render it “journalism”

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LogicalLeopard

Posted at 11:37 AM on April 22, 2014  

There is always a school policy that addresses failing to follow the directives of staff. Which is what he did. If the school never found out that he PLANNED to ask her out, and told him NOT to do it, he’d be fine. But they did, and they told him NOT to. And he did anyway. So that’s why he got in trouble. I agree, there are missing elements to this story, though.

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Alyson Brignac

Posted at 9:06 AM on April 21, 2014  

There are rules, written and unwritten. Rules have a purpose . . . whether you like them or not.

Without rules there is no authority.

Without authority there is chaos.

With chaos, this country would be in worse shape than it is now (believe it or not).

I am concerned with today’s tendency to rebuke authority . . . but, those that do so must pay the price, e.g., low FICO scores for those that don’t pay their bills timely, tickets for those people who drive carelessly, prison for those that commit crimes against others.

Although this is “just” a prom, the rules still matter.

If you tend to be a renegade/rule breaker, you had best be prepared to pay the price for doing so.

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The David

Posted at 8:02 AM on April 21, 2014  

Obviously he broke a school rule. The real question here is why the rule in the first place, which is never explained. What is wrong with the act? While not condoning the breaking of arbitrary and capricious rules like this, not challenging them is tacit approval. I would like to hear someone of authority from the school stand up and explain the reason for the rule in the first place. It seem absurd to me.

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tabbykatcvn74

Posted at 11:13 AM on April 21, 2014  

I don’t think it was a “school rule”, But it was more of a stern request. He knew he was going to get in trouble for it, but you know what? He had to go for it anyways; which is cool.

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Somer

Posted at 7:42 AM on April 21, 2014  

This is absurd. It’s called ‘Freedom of Speech’ people.

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Olive Stemforn

Posted at 9:48 AM on April 21, 2014  

Nothing is absurd about it! The student can’t follow a simple warning about not asking question during a public forum, and he disobeyed.

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me

Posted at 7:14 AM on April 21, 2014  

discipline, yes, as it was out of order to interrupt an event. 3 days suspension? no. and he can do what others have done for decades and ask someone out from school. only about 1/3 attend the prom, so i am sure he can find someone to ask.

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mel

Posted at 3:16 AM on April 21, 2014  

So now they can stop you from your freedom of speech?

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Olive Stemforn

Posted at 9:50 AM on April 21, 2014  

No, that is irrelevant. Violating what he was told not to ask in the public forum is the issue.
someone can’t ask just anything their heart desires.

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d williams

Posted at 1:44 AM on April 21, 2014  

A student should be disciplined for breaking the policy/rules-OF COURSE!! A school should understand the difference between having a school policy and being a dictator!!

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Olive Stemforn

Posted at 9:51 AM on April 21, 2014  

The ones who gave him the warning weren’t being “dictators.”

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aron

Posted at 10:16 AM on April 22, 2014  

Yes they were dictating him to remain quite, not exercise his freedom of speech and free choice. Miss America isn’t royalty our some super power heroine, she is a human being who won a meaningless vanity contest. That doesn’t make her untouchable our unable to be asked simple and innocent questions. Olive you just seem like you are the type of person who follows everyone’s orders because you have no backbone and must be scared of everything because of it. Must suck for you knowing that in your life you will always get used because you don’t have the spine to stand up to someone keeping you repressed. See I’ve had many people tell me not to say or do certain things and if I listened to then like a robot I’d never have been to Iraq yo serve my country, I never would have married my wife or had my son. I never would have stood up to a corrupt drill sergeant who beat a kid and I was the only one to fight to get justice for the kid which I eventually got for him but not without my punishments. But I didn’t give up. I pushed and fought my way through my life and no one especially some idiotic school board well tell me what I can or can’t say or what questions I can or can’t ask someone. Olive, you are just one of the reasons this country is falling. To many people who just want to be led blindly just do long as they don’t have to see the reality of anything. So put your blinds back over your eyes and rest easy knowing someone will dictate your life to you until you die because you let them. Please just leave this country, I prefer to only keep the strong, free willed and open minded people in this country.

 
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LogicalLeopard

Posted at 11:45 AM on April 22, 2014  

Oh, come on. Freedom of speech?Freedom of Speech doesn’t even begin to touch this issue. If he had asked her a personal question, like if she was a virgin, or what her measurements were, and the school told him not to ask in advance, would you still defend him? You cannot do certain things in school if you’re a student. That’s the way it is. That’s the way the world works. It has nothing to do with backbone, it has to do with the way society works. Because when you’re an adult, when you get into the workplace, you can get fired for doing what your boss tells you NOT to do. You work at a hotel, and Miss America comes to stay there, and you ask her on a date despite being told NOT to, you get fired. Point blank. You can’t just go around and do what you want to do without facing the consequences. Aron, you served in the military, right? First of all, thank you for your service. Secondly, if the POTUS visited a base you were on, and you said, “You know, I want to ask the president if he’d be in my fantasy football league.” And a commanding officer told you not to do it, would you do it anyway? Or would you respect the authority of your commanding officer over your own wishes?

 
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Mama

Posted at 1:29 AM on April 21, 2014  

Haha…what a L.O.S.E.R

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Charles Lalantha Jayawardena

Posted at 11:47 PM on April 20, 2014  

Even though it’s the reality, Don’t show the world that you are ignorant and is living in the Primitive age… It is quite evident that it is so, to all those looking at things you Americans and Canadians do.

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Corey

Posted at 10:34 PM on April 20, 2014  

All I am going to say about this is that it has gotten a little out of hand…I think asking celebrities to prom is kind of pathetic

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Heather Ann Sclafani

Posted at 9:46 AM on April 21, 2014  

What’s wrong with asking out a celebrity? I mean, they are no different than us at all. Of course people would quite possibly brag, but who hasn’t? It’s human nature to brag and ask people out.

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Olive Stemforn

Posted at 9:54 AM on April 21, 2014  

That is so true, OP!

 
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Berlin Peter

Posted at 9:11 PM on April 20, 2014  

That is so discriminatory!

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Maggie Ray

Posted at 11:45 PM on April 20, 2014  

How is this discriminatory?

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Olive Stemforn

Posted at 9:55 AM on April 21, 2014  

Nothing is discriminatory about it! He was defiant and broke the rule on purpose.

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Laurie

Posted at 8:56 PM on April 20, 2014  

I think no one should be told who or not who to ask to a prom. Everybody has a right to invite any one they choose.

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Cathy

Posted at 8:50 AM on April 21, 2014  

The point is that it was done at a school event while she was on stage. If he had done it on his own time it would have been a different story.

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thedavidbowers

Posted at 10:30 AM on April 21, 2014  

So Mary, you’re saying it’s all right for a school to tell students who they can and cannot ask to the prom? I didn’t realize this was a communist society (yet)!

 
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Mary

Posted at 8:50 PM on April 20, 2014  

He was told not do to it and he still chose to do it. Now he’s whining because he has to suffer the consequences.

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thedavidbowers

Posted at 11:01 AM on April 21, 2014  

Just because some self-important faculty decided he shouldn’t do it doesn’t make it a ‘rule.’ Show me where it is written in school code that he cannot invite whomever he pleases.

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tabbykatcvn74

Posted at 11:24 AM on April 21, 2014  

I don’t think that was it. It seems to me that it was the fact that they put out to everyone. Don’t interrupt her with questions and I don’t know if they said it verbatim, but don’t ask her to prom. He did it anyways. I mean if she said yes then he would be THE MAN! But I believe she said no thank you, so I guess they followed through with the punishment since he was warned. I think it was ballsy to do it and he could have maybe asked her on twitter or FB, but he chose to do it then. He used his freedom of speech and the school used the freedom to follow through and suspend the boy. At least he can say that he tried.

 
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Pansy Blackwell

Posted at 8:42 PM on April 20, 2014  

She isn’t any better than anyone else to ask out on a date

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