Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says Mary Kennedy's Suicide Was Not His Fault

Sun, May 20, 2012 1:58pm EST by 26 Comments
Mary Kennedy Suicide

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dena

Posted at 4:47 PM on June 11, 2012  

No one knows what goes on behind close doors. I to gave up a job I loved to raise a family. My husband of 32 years wanted to trade me in for a new model. He wanted to sell our home and move to another state – with out me. I was now a old ray to toss.

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carol dinses

Posted at 9:55 PM on May 28, 2012  

Bobby Kennedy is now the new poster boy for Domestic Violence. His character speaks volumes and he doesn’t even have to open his month.

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RFK Jr Sucks

Posted at 12:06 AM on May 25, 2012  

The older son is very handsome and was his mother’s ‘prince.’ He is not going to be fooled by his father’s lies. The father has done the very worst thing possible for these kids who will be damaged for life by this ungodly situation. RFK Jr pushed this woman over the edge in a very calculated manner. I hope the kids turn against him. He’s slime.

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K. Vandervere

Posted at 7:55 PM on May 23, 2012  

Yes I agree with you on every observation. The sympathy for RFKjr is absolutely misplaced. He is not the grieving widower: he drove her to it. He controlled her, even after death. The courts allow rich white men to persecute their wives–all to save on child support and maintenance. It is precisely those wealthy control freaks who don’t want their wives to work who are most brutal during divorce because they don’t want to continue support. They can find attorneys who will break their wives (and or kids) for the right price.

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Bonnie

Posted at 8:54 PM on May 22, 2012  

For some reason I find it hard to believe that Mary would hang herself.
If she wanted to commit suicide I think she would have overdosed on pills. Men hang themselves, women don’t,

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Commentatrix

Posted at 6:44 PM on May 22, 2012  

RFK, Jr.’s sister Kerry at Mary’s funeral masterly spun an all-Kennedys-exculpating yarn for the Kennedy-spun history books: that Mary (who’d neglected an independent paying career as architect [as opposed to the freebie for the RFK. JR. house] “lived life to the fullest” [read: at 52 she had lived all she needed to; her life-thread cut by the Fates had been lived to its max, superfluous to continue], was “deeply rich, rich in friends” (like “best friend” Kerry Kennedy, who evidently did nothing to dissuade her brother Bobby from restraining Mary from seeing her kids “who meant everything to her,” even on Mothers Day, and who did not know [thus, no current friend] or did not care (although Kerry a millionairess) to offer to pay Mary’s $30G in Amex debt; Mary had a “disease, depression”–not a Tipper Gore- style “situational depression”? CAUSED by Bobby’s likely longterm gaslighting, deprecating, depreciating her? One Mary friend posted that recently at a visit to Mary’s home, Bobby had put his hand on her thigh (thus, humiliating Mary before her friend). And postmortem turning Mary’s sisters away from the wake, and blocking them from reclaiming the body of the wife he’d filed divorce papers against: his huge hypocrisy for history of immediately buying 8 burial plots nearby, so posterity will be fooled into thinking Bobby, Mary & brood a happy, integrated family, he faithful.

This “Shamelot” rivals the White House one, as a great Kennedy Bamboozala.

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Chris Walker

Posted at 12:49 PM on May 22, 2012  

Let’s see…he was seeking full custody of the children, had gotten restraining orders against her, was going to reduce alimony probably to the point where she was forced out of their home and into bankruptcy……he had just forced her up against a wall and took every reason to live away. In my opinion, suicide was a no-brainer.

Ok, so Mary apparently interfered with RJK’s first marriage to Emily Black, and it was something she probably wasnt too proud of, but she didnt deserve to die for her sins.

I have always liked and admired the Kennedys in many ways, even though they, like everyone else, had faults, some of them sizable, but RJK Jr. is nothing more than a total waste of human life….I have always disliked it when people use the word a-hole, but it suits him to a T…he is a disgusting, horrible person.

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Fortuny

Posted at 11:58 PM on May 24, 2012  

I met RFK Jr when sitting outside at a cafe. He was walking straight for me and I was thinking ‘Sloopy, boozehound, womanizer.’ He is a horrid person. The absolute worst. A phony, a mean SOB. Am sure the Universe will deliver justice.Big Time.

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pld

Posted at 8:35 PM on June 9, 2012  

I could not agree more. I have always been a Kennedy admirer and a life long democrat but JFK’s behavior was disgusting! I bet his father is rolling in his grave. I always thought of Bobby Kennedy as a man of principal. He went after the mob and he appeared to be a real family man. I wonder what he would say to his son?

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Missy

Posted at 11:58 AM on May 22, 2012  

Oh, but, she DID swipe Robert from wife one and that was the start of the mess they both created. A weight of angst to build horror from under all the original bliss.

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Missy

Posted at 11:57 AM on May 22, 2012  

Yup.

He is the catylst, the continued pain and the lack of respect and care.

She may have had substance abuse problems. Even mental health ones but he was the straw, neigh…..the huge log that did her in.

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MrsT

Posted at 1:05 AM on May 22, 2012  

Very , very well stated, Suzanne, i couldn’t agree with you more! He will have a long time to think about his part in her demise.
He was a serial cheater and I’m sure came back to her any number of times after his cheating and begged forgiveness. No doubt she thought he’d be back this time too, but he was caught up with Hollywood. I hate to tell Cheryl Hines, but I don’t think she’s the fascination. I think Bobby is loving the Hollywood life and thinks he’s a celebrity. So, Cheryl, there’s really only room in his world for one star and it’s not you!

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Anyonymous

Posted at 12:55 AM on May 22, 2012  

Suzanne,
Altough I agree that Robert is a snake, lets not pretend that Mary is a saint and all angelic. She knowingly started an affair with Robert when he was still married. She told several close friends, including a colleague of mine way back in the late 1980s/ early 90s that she was determined to marry a Kennedy or words to that effect. She didn’t care that Robert was married…she was determined to get him and she did. She also conveniently got herself pregnant by him before the divorce from wife number one. Ethel Kennedy saw right through it and privately encouraged Robert not to marry her, but to no avail. Mary was 50 percent responsible for the destruction of his first marriage, so why she was surprised and shocked when he cheated on her?

Now, with that said, I agree that Robert is a snake and I have no sympathy for him. I also feel terrible for Mary’s depression problem as it is heartbreaking how it all ended. My only point is that I see all these comments from people trying to paint her as an angel and she wasn’t. Neither is Robert.

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ruth robinson

Posted at 12:41 AM on May 22, 2012  

And, you have personal knowlege of this? Where exactly do you get your information?
Suicide in itself is a manipulative, selfish act which is usually carried out after years of threatening to do so. It is sad that Mary’s life ended in this way. There are usually more than one reason and they are usually deep seated and even related to past relationships, current situations, and chidlhood. But, we need to let her RIP and let her family, her children whom she was so upset over not having custory over, heal.She must not have thought her action through very well, or she would have thought of what this would do to her kids. No telling just what those poor kids have been through in their young lives. I don’t think we can blame Bobby for all of it. Mary needed help and most likely looked for it only after she knew she had to because he left and she had to have realized that with him put ot the home she might, through her own actions, lose those children. Yes, I am sure she was devastated over losing him, but, she really had some of the blame. I am not saying he is perfect, but, he is human as was she.
RIP Mary and we will say a prayer for you and for your family left behind. .

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kimberly

Posted at 11:13 AM on May 26, 2012  

I also meant to add that if you have ever been in an abusive relationship (mental or physical)… and had been through or witnessed anyone going through a divorce with a narcissist (male or female)… you will always be able to recognize this in other people’s stories… and this would be one of those stories.

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ruth robinson

Posted at 12:21 AM on May 22, 2012  

There are many reasons a person takes their own life. But, in the end, it is their decision to do so and there is no blame.
In this case it has been clear for a very long time, much longer than the 2 or so years following RFK jr’s filiing for a divorce. Which I suspect was a direct result of his wife’s probliems that caused him to make the decision to leave. As for his petitioning the court for the children? Well, with all the problems Mary was exhibiting except for visitation rights, perhaps she would have done better to get treatment and allow their father to care for the kids until such a time as she would be rendered fit to resume her duties as full time parent. I believe that the scenario, as tragic as it is, certainly played out in that way. I shudder to think what the results may have been had the children come home and found their mother. Since it is documented that the two older children were away at boarding school a the time, it would have been one of the younger children, I believe Finn is 14 and Aiden is 11. That would have been devastating.
The question might be directed to her doctors. Was she on anti-depressants and was she taking them as directed?
RFK jr had clearly moved on and was exhibiting such, seriously, he had been through some really tough times with Mary. She had been making threats for some time, did not just begin with May,2010, just like the drinking did not just magically appear then either.
I feel for the Kennedy family as a whole, I can see and hear in what I read a man who is distraught over “failing” to help his wife and the mother of his children, but, I also see and hear in what I read of a man who is desperately trying to move on. Did he do all that he could to help Mary?
We have documentation of times that he tried to get her help, called the police to intervene while out of town, and other situations we don’t know about, I am sure.
Now, our attention must turn to those children, ranging in age from 17-11, they should be the focus of their family’s attention now. Not to be defending oneself to the press or to Mary’s siblings but to caring for and nurturing the children,who have already been through so much in their short lives. I believe that is exactly what RFK jr was doing at the funeral during his eulogy, he certainly has the right to stand up for himself, but, maybe he is sending a message to those who would want to put blame, he is putting it to rest and moving on to caring for his children and help them to heal.
Going forward we need to allow this family the grace of privacy while they regroup and heal. And, yes while they resume life with all it’s love, joy and sorrow. Bobby, Conor,Kyra,Finn and Aidan, please accept our sincere condolences and the sincer wish and prayers that you are able to heal and go on to do with your lives what you are meant to.
Rest In Peace, Mary, I for one hope that you finally found the peace you were searching for while in this world in the next. I will light a candle for you and say a prayer for your soul while saying prayers for your family left behind to deal with your life and your death.

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Dink Friesell

Posted at 9:10 PM on May 21, 2012  

(M.A.R.C.S.) murder,abuse,rape,chronical illness, suicide is a growing concern in todays culture. There is a need for someone to listen and for someone to talk. I’pray for all of us survivors and our lost loved ones. I’am here to listen or talk if anyone needs me .

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Lee Ann

Posted at 8:33 PM on May 21, 2012  

I couldn’t have said it better…. then who is to blame? Her children? He is scum!

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Suzanne

Posted at 4:31 PM on May 21, 2012  

He took her beloved children away, including on Mother’s Day.
He relentlessly served her with intimidating court actions, restraining orders.
He flaunted his affair in public knowing how devastating it was for her.
He threatened her with loss of her home that she designed.
While she quit her work as a respected architect to run his home, be his hostess, create a noble foundations, and be a loving mother to his children–he let her be hounded by creditors.
He was a heroin addict–and mischaracterized her as this off the rails woman when she was hurting from his ‘Gaslighting’ of her.
He was maliciously calculating to beat her down so that she’d settle for less, walk away in the divorce.

He is a monster and there will be no escape from his Karma.

This wonderful, educated, highly intelligent and very decent good woman died a horrific death in a dirty old barn near the hidden trash heaps on an otherwise pristine 10-acre estate.

The symbolism is mythic. Then he adds to his children’s pain by warring against the other side of their family. He is brutally self-absorbed, clueless monster. The poor kids lost their good parent in a way that will impact and hurt them for the rest of their life.

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ROSE

Posted at 2:01 PM on May 21, 2012  

Kennedy men use women like disposable diapers they crap on them and then throw them in the trash

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Lori

Posted at 5:52 PM on June 12, 2012  

Rose, I don’t think you could have summed it up better! That’s exactly what I think of most of the Kennedy men.

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Anne

Posted at 1:35 PM on May 21, 2012  

I think alcohol and prescription drugs were the reason she committed suicide. She’s responsible for her own decision to try to hurt him that way. If she was abusing drugs and alcohol long before he filed for divorce it was likely one of the main causes of the decline in the marriage. No one should let another person manipulate or control with threats or acts of suicide. It should never be considered an option or solution.

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Lisa

Posted at 3:41 PM on May 26, 2012  

Her story is my story… with the exception of the fact that I fell into a dark abyss only to crawl out of it and fight like I had never fought before…. but I wasn’t married to a Kennedy who had the money and power to keep me beaten down. The drugs and alcohol did not cause the “decline in the marriage”, they were only a way of covering the pain she felt she could no longer tolerate and could find no escape from… and I can almost guarantee she was not trying to hurt him when she did this… she just wanted out of the world of pain he had inflicted on her and could see no other way out. If you have ever been a victim of this type of person, you would understand completely. You are their enemy and they will do everything in their power to destroy you, cruelly, insidiously and methodically– and it won’t be visible to most people around you. In fact, you may appear to be “the crazy one”… I now have my beautiful daughter, a wonderful husband, my home, and more love and security than I could ever have imagined… and that is something I wish for any woman (or man) who has ever been in the situation I was in.

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John Hamilton

Posted at 10:29 AM on May 21, 2012  

He did everything he could to save her? Like take her 4 kids away when it was obvious they were everything to her. He is so self centered that he can’t even see how hurt she was this mothers day. The Kennedy sister was right she couldn’t fight back the demons.. The demon was Bobby. He broke her down and we all know it, even he knows it. Someday Someday his kids will realize what a monster he is.

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Timmer

Posted at 6:23 PM on May 20, 2012  

That is Sad to hear & I don’t think he have nothing to do with it. it actually her own falut and she choice to live her life @ THAT TIME

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Missy

Posted at 5:02 PM on May 20, 2012  

Yeah sure Robert. First your mistress, you know the one you cheated on Mary with, your mistress says she feels “terrible”, next you say it’s “not your fault”. BS, and no one believes you. In fact, WOMEN on the internet have blamed you and really hate you and all of the Kennedys. ALL OF YOU are scumbucket bottom feeding narcissistic WOMEN KILLERS.

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